Libija

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jure2
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OdgovorNapisal/-a jure2 » Če Dec 08, 2005 5:59 pm

Pika moj odgovor na tvoje vprašanje je NE! Zato pa hočem iti.

Do sedaj sem zvedel tole:

pogoji za vizo za libijo:
Rabiš vlogo verjetno v nemščini
2 slike za pasuš (Uradne)
Pasuš ki je veljaven še šest mesecev po prihodu domov, torej vsaj do oktobra 2006
V pasušu morata biti dve prazni strani za vizo
Pomembno, v pasušu ne sme biti žiga iz IZRAELA
za pasuš sicer ni obvezen prevod v arabščino ampak je priporočljivo
Ali mi lahko kdo to potrdi?

Potem bi pa potrbovali opis poti, po kateri bomo potovali, z mesti kjer bomo prenočevali in pa v naprej rezerviranimi hoteli ali prenočišči???(pojma nimam kako si to predstavljajo?)

Predvsem me zanima kako naj jim povem kje bom kdaj spal, saj se mi tudi približno ne sanja kje bom povozil mino :wink:, in tam dva dni popravljal avto? Ali si lahko ta prenočišča malo izmislim?

Gost

OdgovorNapisal/-a Gost » Če Dec 08, 2005 9:44 pm

Ko sem bil jaz, sem rabil tudi potrdilo, da nimam aidsa.
Ampak to je že dolgo nazaj.
LP Miran

Saso
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OdgovorNapisal/-a Saso » Pe Dec 09, 2005 8:38 am

1. Mi smo potrebovali prevod pasuša v arabščino.
2. Povabilno pismo je obvezno, ta ki nas je vabil ga je moral poslati direktno tudi na ambasado (To nam je urejala agencija ARKNO).
3. Za AIDS ni potrebnih nobenih dokazil.
4. Žiga Izraela ne smeš imeti.
5. Sigurno je tudi potrebna določena veljavnost pasuša (pri nas veljavnost ni težava).
6. Povabilno pismo mora biti pravilno napisano z vsemi podatki potnikov.

Ne vem s kom boste urejali dokumente, sam vam priporočam agencijo ARKNO.
Za po Libiji bo potrebno na meji še začasno registrirati avte, dobi se libijske tablice.
Potrebno je imeti spisek potnikov v večih izvodih, saj ga vzamejo na vsaki policijski ali vojaški kontroli na poti, te pa so skoraj pred vsakim mestom in večkrat na cestah.

Podatki so stari eno leto.

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Noise
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OdgovorNapisal/-a Noise » So Dec 10, 2005 9:49 pm

Arkno je od začetka leta do oktobra pridobil zelo slab glas. Se pa baje popravljajo.

Nekaj (vedno) trenutnih podatkov najdete pri Chrisu Scottu... predvsem je zanimiv tisti odsek o poti do Nigra.

http://www.sahara-overland.com/country/libya.htm¸

LIBYA
December 2005

Currency: Currency: Dinar. 1 euro = 1.6 LD. Euros are the most useful for official and unofficial transactions.

Price of fuel: 2 star petrol 0.105LD/litre; Super 0.14D/litre. Diesel 0.12LD/litre. That is about as cheap as it gets in the Sahara.

Costs: Visa/invite/entry costs apart, Libya is still cheap. Notes come in 10, 5, 1, half and a quarter with the numbers written in English as well as Arabic.

Useful languages: Arabic and English. Road signs names are in Arabic but the distance numbers are in Roman ('English') script. Nevertheless it helps to learn the ten cardinal Arabic numerals (read from left to right, unlike Arabic script which is read from right to left).

Visas and regs:
Apparently you no longer require the bilingual stamp in your passport for your details to be filled in Arabic. With your invitation a visa is issued for 30 days (and are valid for 45 days from issue (not three months as some may tell you), though extensions may be possible - in Sebha for example.

Since April 2005 these visas are available at the Tunisian Ras Adjir border for 35 euros, though it might be considered more of a 'collection' with all your other paperwork, as you need a corresponding letter of invitation.
In November 2005 there was talk of a new border post between Dehiba in Tunisia and Nalut in Libya. If it's true it should help separate Tripoli-bound traffic from those heading south, though not save many road miles.

In Libya you need to travel with an escort (around euro 50 in your vehicle - at least twice that in their own car - but see below). Try not to pay the entire fee in advance with a guide in a car. It is not unlikely there will be problems with a escort's old banger which may spoil your trip.

Fly-in tours are easy to join at the typical Saharan rate of £120/per plus flight.

In mid-2004 Ursula S came up with this - as you can see they charge in various ways to confuse things:

Slika

Another quote I heard of recently added up to:
$50 US visa / person (invitation)
$150 / car for the plate, insuranse, carnet.
$100 border services per car
$45 / day for the guide in your car
$20 / day for the tourist police in your car.

This company also wanted another $45 a day for a guide to Waw Namus and Tazerbu (one presumes guides around the lakes and Akakus are included).

Finding a reliable Libyan tour operator (including the ones listed above) who answer enquiries promptly has never been easy; they seem more interested in making money than offering a service. Your positive recommendations are welcome - I have heard Shati Zuara may be OK (but the website is no longer found - try Google, as well as El Majde (though this weblink is a dead end). Long-established Arkno, who were deleted from this page a few months ago, seem to be going out of their way to offer good service again, I am pleased to report.

Border formalities: Show green form and passport. Rent number plate (around 100LD with a 50LD refund on return) and buy local carnet (euro 50 cars, euro 30 bikes) in the hanger on the left and insurance (euro 24 a fortnight?) at another hanger further up. Allow at least two hours. You can change money officially at the kiosk in the hanger. Don't forget within 5 days you must register with the Police is some town or another (as in the book). Get a triangular stamp and pay a dinar or so.

Leaving Libya at Ras Ajdir, get your carnet stamped, fill out a green form again (in Arabic, you'll need help), get passport stamped and return number plate and receipt for a 50LD refund (which they'll buy off you in Tunisia). All pretty straightforward, even without a helper.

Desert pistes: The main area of interest is the fabulous Fezzan in the southwest, and particularly the amazing Akakus mountains east of Ghat (rock paintings). The engravings of the Wadi Mathendous are also worth a visit. The piste over to the mosquito-ridden crater at Waw el Namus is also popular as is a visit to the dune lakes in the erg between Ubari and Idri.

The route to Niger from El Gatrun (new route description January 2005) is being sealed up to the border at Tumu, and the Nigerans are also improving the track from the border to Seguedine and on to Bilma they say.

Eastern Libya is a bit more off the map, less scenically interesting and in places has a risk of landmines.

Saso
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OdgovorNapisal/-a Saso » Po Dec 12, 2005 12:19 pm

Pri teh stvareh je tako, da ima vsak drugačne izkušnje in vsak plača drugačno ceno za različne stvari.
Sam lahko povem, da so se Arkno, njegov šef Jamal in vodič Walid izkazali in držali vseh dogovor. Tako kar se tiče organizacije, kot kar se tiče cen.
Kar se tega tiče jih lahko priporočim. Z drugimi pa nimam izkušenj.

brane
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OdgovorNapisal/-a brane » To Dec 20, 2005 1:01 pm

E Jure nimaš še nobenega avta za zraven.
Za dirko tudi še nimam prijavljenega.
Nasveti pa kar dežujejo.

LPBrane

PS kdor ne skače ni slovenc.

jure2
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OdgovorNapisal/-a jure2 » Če Dec 22, 2005 11:54 am

Bomo šli kar sami, če bo kaj narobe bomo pa kupili tri kamele in prijahali domov!

nivaklub

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OdgovorNapisal/-a nivaklub » So Jan 07, 2006 9:09 am


nivaklub

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OdgovorNapisal/-a miran » Po Jan 09, 2006 8:53 am

Tile madžari se pa ne hecajo.
Kapo dol. Avantura za najplitkejše žepe. Ampak še vseeno Avantura z veliko začetnico.
Na to temo bi lahko priredil staro pesmico:
Kam so šli vsi Jugoti? V Bamako...
:lol: :lol:
LP Miran
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romi
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OdgovorNapisal/-a romi » Če Feb 09, 2006 8:51 pm

Pozdravljeni

Lep pozdrav iz Ghadamesa, vec pa lahko vidite na:
www.mmawp.net/live/libija

LP

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OdgovorNapisal/-a golnar » Če Okt 07, 2010 3:58 pm

UAU! 8) že slike je užitek pogledat. sanjsko

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OdgovorNapisal/-a Picpoki » Če Okt 07, 2010 4:00 pm

Lepe fotke.
Land Rovers are like women:
They leak when you don't want them to, moan on long journey's, embarrass you in front of friends and peers, and consume more money than you ever expected once you've commit yourself to one.
ONE LIFE, LIVE IT/antikrist team

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OdgovorNapisal/-a Dimen » Pe Okt 29, 2010 8:21 pm



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